Travel plan for a 2 weeks trip in Yunnan/Guizhou/Guangxi
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First of all I want to thank you all for the magnificent job you are doing with this very useful website.
Thanks to your website, other internet sites and the Rough Guide for Southern China I worked out this itinerary, from 16th april to 3rd may
- flight from Italy to Hong Kong
- flight from Hong Kong to Kunming
- Yuanyang rice fields and Hani People and/or Samaba rice fields in Baohua (is it worthy visiting them in april? some says the best period is february/march other february/april)
- Lijiang stone city and Bai, Naxi, Lisu and Pumi people
- Dongchuan red soil fields (flowering period is may? does it make sense to go there in april?)
- Stone Forest
- Luoping? (I know the best period for yellow fields is till mid march. in april it is worthy to go there?)
- Bamei village
- Hairpin bends road near Qinglong (road from kunming to Anshun
- I found it on google Earth but no one talks about it)
- Long Horn Miao (which are the best places to visit them, maybe not too far from the Kunming-Quiyang road in order to save time? if in Lupanshui area may consider also visiting a Mosuo village)
- Matang Gejia village
- Shitouzhai Buyi village and Dixi Opera
- Zhenyuan Miao village
- Taijiang Sisters Meal*
- Leishan Mini-skirts Miao village
- Xijiang Miao village
- Basha Miao village
- Zhaoxing Dong village
- Chengyang bridge
- Longcheng for Longji and Jinkeng rice fields
- Cruise on the Li River from Guilin to Yangshuo
- flight to Hong Kong departing from Guilin or Guiyang (depending when visiting Taijiang Sisters Meal
- flight from Hong Kong to Italy
Any suggestion about things to add and things to take away from this list?
As you can see, my main interest are ethnic minorities and taking photographs.
I don't speak mandarin. Do you think this tour can be completed with public buses or is better to have a private driver/guide to be sure to see all, even though I understand this will be much more expensive?
If someone would like to share the trip and the cost it will be really good.
Roberto
PS
I posted the new topic in this section because in "Travel Plan" section it doesn't accept it.
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Roberto,
some suggestions (I have lived in China for a couple of years, in Yunnan and Guangxi).
For two weeks this plan involves too much travel. The distances between places are quite large, and to some of minority places, a small distance on a map can be 2 or 3 hours drive. So I think you should trim your list.
First, take out the places that aren't 'in season'. Luoping won't be happening that time of year. And take out double-ups, such as rice terraces in different places.
Second, take out the more touristy places such as the Stone Forest and the Li river cruise. There are better smaller alternatives.
Third, remember that China is quite cheap compared to most other countries, but if you use public transport it will take twice as long to get places, and some places you mention you won't be able to get to. Even though I speak some Mandarin, and am a good traveler, I have found using a guide/driver the best way to make the most of your trip and time. I've used a good company in Yunnan and Sichuan (no longer operating) and also a very good native English speaking guide in Yunnan (Keith Lyons, Lijiang Guides, keithalyons@gmail.com). Go with a foreigner living in China, rather than an English speaking Chinese for a better trip.
Forth, the start of May and end of April is a busy, busy time across all of China, especially parts of Yunnan, Guizhou and Guangxi, with people travelling around that Golden Week period. It will be hard to find accommodation and book transport, and prices will be higher.
Fifth, if your focus is on minorities and taking photos, Yunnan and Guizhou are the best places, but also the most difficult to travel in. Start in Lijiang or Zhongdian (Shangri-la) and work your way to Dali, Chuxiong, Kunming, Yuanyang and then fly Kunming to Guilin and work your way up to Guiyang via some minority villages and to the Sisters Festival. The Baimei village is a long, long trip. Muoso are around Lugu lake but you can see them in Lijiang. For the Long Horn Miao it is a long journey also. You may find some of the places have become overly touristy now, with the development of shows, entrance fees, etc. The Taijiang Sisters Meal will be buzzing with photographers and Chinese tourists, and accommodation will be tight.
Good luck.
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Josh,
thank you very much for your detailed reply: that’s the kind of answers I’m looking for.
Is clear to me that I put too many things on the desk: I just listed everything I’d love to see in order to get comments and then choose.
First: ok, Luoping out. Rice terraces: Yuanyang seems more beautiful but Longshen is closer to other places. I read that Yuanyang is at his best in march and Longsheng in may. Which one would be better in april?
Second: what places would you suggest? I’ve seen pictures of other places with rocks similar to the ones of the Stone Forest but are not so gorgeous. Li River cruise: do you mean to avoid the cruise and visit the Guilin area by bycicle?
Third: I realized it and I’m planning to use a private driver/guide, even if it’s quite expensive considering that I’ll probably travel alone. I’ll get in touch with the guy you suggested.
Fourth: the initial idea of this trip was to see Sisters Meal Festival so I cannot change period of the tour. Moverover consider that, due to my job, I can travel only in second half of any month.
Fifth: in practice, you suggest to take out the Bamei village and the Long Horn Miao. Ok for the first one but the second one I’d really love to see them. Shangri-La: I’m not planning to see Tibet-like places because I hope one day to travel to Tibet.
Thank you again for your precious suggestions.
Roberto
Hi Roberto
my suggestion is to just pick off a few things you really want to see, and have a clear route, and things will happen along the way. Especially if you have a good guide.
Longsheng is nice but a little developed, but has good hiking. Yuanyang is a long,long way to go,and there won't be so much water around.
There are some stone forests nearby the commercial Stone Forest that you could visit. Or have the guide take you away from the main trail.
Li River is pleasant, and so is bamboo rafting on the smaller rivers, with comorant fishermen in traditional costume around. Biking around Yangshuo is glorious.
A guide can make such a difference to a trip. I visited a place in Yunnan four times, the first three times with friends, the last time with a guide, and it was a lot nicer,I learnt more, got to meet people I would never be able to, and also for personal comfort and safety there is nothing like a familiar face. Figure on around 100+ euro a day for a driver and a guide. Guides save you money, as if you try to do yourself, you end up wasting a lot of time and money in a foreign and somewhat strange place. In some of the places you mention, the roads are not great.
The Sisters Meal is quite an event, accommodation is booked up, expensive or involves travelling for a long distance, and you may be surprise to find it has been discovered by just about every photographer living in China.
Re Long Horn, if you can get to them, go for it. Bamei has been discovered by tourism and is no longer the idyllic place it was once.
Hi Josh,
thank you again for your advices. I'll take them in great consideration.
Maybe I've found the guide (he is a western living in Southern China) and I will discuss with him your comments.
Thanks for your precious help.
Roberto
Josh,
I'm following your suggestion: just cut Yunnan off so the trip will concentrate on Guizhou only.
Yuanyang and other Yunnan sites will be the subjects of a different trip, I hope soon.
Keith Lyons is from NZ and a photographer and Naxi people expert? If yes, I think he'll be my guide.
Thank you again.
Roberto
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